Mr. Liebeler. You did not see them? I suppose the answer should be, "Yes; I did not see them"?
Mr. Gregory. Yes; I did not see them paying any bills.
Mr. Liebeler. Did the Oswalds ever discuss their finances with you, or discuss their finances between themselves that you ever heard?
Mr. Gregory. Not that I can remember. There is something faintly about them saying, "Well, if we had this money, we would buy something for June Lee," but I can't think of any specific instance.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, taking all of your experiences with the Oswalds together and all of the conversations that you had with them, would you relate to us what they told you, and differentiate between Lee or Marina, as best you can, about the whole Russian episode, why Oswald went to Russia; what he did when he was there; how he met Marina; why he decided to come back; and how he came back, and so on?
Mr. Gregory. On one of the questions I can't answer very well because I never discussed with him why he went. I personally never asked him.
At this dinner, I am sure you have already heard an account of it, he explained that he went because he was disgusted with the American system or the capitalist system where everything is run by money and the desire to get money. That seemed to be his only objection, that I ever heard, and his only reason as to why he left.
Let's see, what was the other. Oh, according to Lee, then also he was very disgusted with the Marines, how the Marines had treated him. I don't know if you could classify that as a reason for him leaving and going to the Soviet Union. Maybe it was.
Mr. Liebeler. What did he tell you about that?
Mr. Gregory. Oh, I just asked him—I knew he had been in the Marines—what he thought of it. He would never speak of it. He was sort of—look disgusted and say, "I don't want to talk about it," or something like that. Those are the only two reasons which I heard, and the second one would be one which I am not sure of.