Mr. Gregory. About these meetings?
Mr. Liebeler. About the meetings and his expression of amazement as to why they did let Marina come back.
Mr. Gregory. I think he said something about it was just an accident where maybe 1 out of 10 just happens to get through where they allow it. He seemed to think there was no special reason that they let her go. It was more or less an accident.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he say that to you?
Mr. Gregory. Or an exception, yes, as I remember.
Mr. Liebeler. So that he indicated to you his surprise that Marina had been permitted to leave the Soviet Union with him?
Mr. Gregory. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. He explained it basically in terms of an accident or something that he couldn't readily explain?
Mr. Gregory. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he offer as a suggestion as to why they had permitted Marina to come back anything to the effect that it was a time of reduced tension between the Soviet Union and the United States?