Mr. Liebeler. Did he ever mention anything about assistance he might have received from the Red Cross while he was in the Soviet Union?

Mr. Gregory. No; the only financial spot which he mentioned to me was the money he got through the U.S. Ambassador to Russia.

Mr. Liebeler. What did he tell you about that?

Mr. Gregory. He just said he went in and told them he wanted to return, and the fellow gave him something like $300. And then after that, he spoke of his trip back. He went through Poland and East Germany.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you that he had stayed for a time in Moscow before leaving the Soviet Union to return?

Mr. Gregory. The only time I know of his being in Moscow was when he was there at the very first as a tourist, and that is the only time I heard him mention being in Moscow.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you anything about any difficulties that he encountered in obtaining the necessary papers for him and Marina to return to the United States?

Mr. Gregory. The only difficulties which I have heard are the difficulties I have already brought up about the pressure put on Marina. But as far as paperwork, I can't bring anything out specifically.

Mr. Liebeler. He never mentioned any difficulty that he encountered with the U.S. authorities in that regard?

Mr. Gregory. No.