Mr. Jenner. This was in World War I?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes, in World War I. That was in 1918 or 1919. I don't remember exactly what year it was. That area was still occupied by the Germans. Anyway, there was famine in Moscow, or Leningrad, I don't remember which one—-there was famine there. So we escaped.
Mr. Jenner. Did your whole family escape to Minsk?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I don't remember what my brother was doing at the time. I think—I think just my father, mother, and myself. I think my brother was in the Naval Academy at the time.
Mr. Jenner. I want to ask you about your brother in due course.
He is about 12 years older than you?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes—11.
Mr. Jenner. A man of some scholarly attainment, by the way.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. He certainly is. He loves books.
Mr. Jenner. Now——