Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. To meet the Germans who were invading Poland from the other side?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. So he then became engulfed by the Russians?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is right. He became engulfed in advance of the Russian Army and had to go into hiding because he had a sentence of life exile to Siberia against him. And at that time the Germans and the Russians were not at war yet, so the Russians and the Germans made an agreement that all the people of German or Baltic or Swedish origin could go to Germany, and they could declare themselves openly and go to a special German commission set up for that effect in various towns.

Mr. Jenner. You say declare themselves openly. What do you mean by that?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Declare themselves that they they are willing to go and live in Germany, instead of living in Russia.

Mr. Jenner. Declare allegiance to the German Government?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is right—declare allegiance to the German Government, and declare themselves Volkdeutsche, which means of Germanic origin. Russia had many millions of people of that type, an enormous German colony. So the Germans did it in order to get all those Germans from the Volga Province into their own country. And all the other people, like my father. And he declared himself willing to go to Germany, and the Germans took him into Germany. He would rather be with the Germans than with the Communists, and spent the rest of his life——

Mr. Jenner. Was your father still anti-Communist?