Mr. Jenner. Sometimes to excess.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. To excess; yes. The big discussions I had in Yugoslavia was always about the freedoms. And I remember that I was attacked one day by a group of Communists in Yugoslavia about Governor Faubus, in Arkansas—saying "What happens there? Is that an example of democracy in Arkansas?" And I told them, yes, it is an example of democracy. I told them that you can imagine in your own country that the Governor would object to the order from the President, and the President had to send troops to make the Governor obey. And that made an impression on them. A few examples like that.
Mr. Jenner. When you were in Yugoslavia, then, you did have debates with the Communists?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Occasionally—after a few drinks, you can talk to them. But they were engineers and geologists—they were not people active politically—they were not big shots.
With the big shots you cannot discuss it. But with smaller people, you can discuss.
Mr. Jenner. Are you interested in debate?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Very much so; yes.
Mr. Jenner. Are you inclined in order to facilitate debate to take any side of an argument as against somebody who seeks to support——
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is an unfortunate characteristic I have; yes.
Mr. Jenner. And that leads you at times to not necessarily speak in favor of, but to take the opposite view of somebody with respect to communism?