Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That was the end of 1960 and 1961—all of 1961.

Mr. Jenner. That took about 8 months?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Almost a year.

Mr. Jenner. So you would return in the late fall of 1961?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. 1961.

Mr. Jenner. November, I believe.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; I remember that.

Mr. Jenner. Now, the occasion when Mikoyan was in Mexico was some other occasion?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. A different occasion; yes.

Mr. Jenner. As long as we have raised it at this point, we might as well complete it. Tell us about that.