Mr. Jenner. At this time were you aware that there had been an American who had gone to the Soviet Union and attempted to defect to the Soviet Union?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. And that he had returned to the United States?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is what I heard from George Bouhe.

Mr. Jenner. That was the first you ever knew anything at all about——

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I never heard about them, never heard anything about them before.

Mr. Jenner. Now, is that likewise true of Mrs. De Mohrenschildt?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Same thing. I think we were both together when this conversation took place.

Mr. Jenner. When did it take place?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I could not tell you the date. I think in the summer of 1962.