Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I already noticed then that the couple—that they were not getting along, right away.
Mr. Jenner. What made you have that impression?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Well, there was a strained relationship there. You could feel that. And, you know how it is—you can see that the couple—that they are not very happy. You could feel that. And he was not particularly nice with her. He didn't kiss her. It wasn't a loving husband who would come home and smile and kiss his wife, and so on and so forth. He was just indifferent with her. He was more interested in talking to me than to her. That type of attitude.
Mr. Jenner. But you did notice throughout all your acquaintance with him that he blossomed when you paid attention to him, let us say?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Exactly.
Mr. Jenner. You drew him into conversation or situations—especially when you asked something about him?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; exactly. I think that is his main characteristic. He wanted people to be interested in him, not in Marina. And she remained quite often in the background.
Later on, even in conversation she would remain in the background, and he would do the talking.
Mr. Jenner. Did he have an arrogant attitude?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. No; with me he has never been arrogant. Even when we came to the incident, you know, when we took the baby away from him, and Marina away from him later—you know that?