Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Absolutely firm. The only ones. Maybe they were just more recently arrived in the United States and they were not so secure like we were, you see. And possibly they were just alarmed of meeting somebody who just came from Soviet Russia.

Mr. Jenner. I think I will ask you at this point, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, you are a man of very superior education and extremely wide experience and acquaintance here and in Europe, South America, West Indies—you have lived an extremely colorful life. You are acquainted to a greater or lesser degree with a great variety of people.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Did there go through your mind speculations as to whether Oswald was an agent of anybody?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. No.

Mr. Jenner. Why? Before I put it that way—when you say "No," am I correct in assuming that you thought about the subject and you concluded he was not an agent of anybody? Is that what you meant?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I never thought even about it. I will tell you why I thought he never was—because he was too outspoken. He was too outspoken in his ideas and his attitudes. If he were really—if he were an agent, I thought he would have kept quiet. This would be my idea.

Mr. Jenner. You say he was outspoken. What do you base that on?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. For instance, he showed me his—he discussed very freely with me, when he showed me his little memoirs.

Mr. Jenner. I am going to show you those papers in a little while.