Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is right. Well, instead of that he disliked it and switched to something else. I do not know the details of all his jobs, you see, but I certainly can evaluate people just by looking at them—because I have met so many people in my profession—you have to evaluate them by just looking at them and saying a few words.

Mr. Jenner. Did you form an impression of him, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, as to his reliability in a different sense now—that is, whether he was reasonably mentally stable or given to violent surges of anger or lack of control of himself?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Of course, he was that. The fact that we took his wife away from him, you know, was the result of his outbursts and his threats to his wife.

Mr. Jenner. What kind of threats?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Well, that he will beat the hell out of her. I think Marina told me that he threatened to kill her. It comes back to my mind, you see. You asked me yesterday a question, what actually precipitated us taking Marina and the little child away from Oswald.

Mr. Jenner. You actually took Marina and the child away?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes. So what actually precipitated that? Something must have precipitated it. I cannot recall what it was. But now I seem to vaguely remember that Marina said that he would kill her, that he will beat her sometime so hard that he will kill her. So that is the reason we went out there and said—well, let's save that poor woman.

Mr. Jenner. Where were they living then?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. They were living then at the first address in Oak Cliff—Ruth Street, I think. It is a two-story brick building.

Mr. Jenner. Mercedes?