Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That is all I recall—that he said, "I have met some Communists in Japan and they got me excited and interested, and that was one of my inducements in going to Soviet Russia, to see what goes on there."
Mr. Jenner. Did you form any opinion that this man, because of his meager boyhood, on the verge of poverty, or in poverty all during his youth and up to the time he went into the Marines at least, that he had some groping for a ready solution that would not permit that sort of thing?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Naturally. That's the whole point. I could understand his point of view, because that is what happens exactly in the whole world with dissatisfied people. If they are constructive, they study more and try to get good jobs and succeed. The other try to form a revolutionary party. And he was one of them.
Mr. Jenner. The other try to do it overnight, by force of arms.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That's right.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever discuss with him that there are many great men and women who have come from poverty?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Oh, yes. You could not discuss it with Oswald because he knew it all.
Mr. Jenner. He always knew what the answer was.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. He always knew what the answer was. And possibly that is why he was clinging to us, to my wife and me, because we did not discuss it with them, because we did not give a damn. After we found out what was going on in that town of Minsk, what was the situation, what were the food prices, how they dressed, how they spent their evenings, which are things interesting to us, our interest waned. The rest of the time, the few times we saw Lee Oswald and Marina afterwards, was purely to give a gift, to take them to a party, because we thought they were dying of boredom, you see—which Marina was.
Mr. Jenner. She was?