So I did not pay particular attention to that fact. If people were scared of talking to Oswald, it was understandable.
Mr. Jenner. Did that ever arise, discussions as to why—possibly affecting his desire to return to the United States?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I do not recall that. The most important answer I think I got from Oswald—and that was one of the reasons we liked him and thought that he was rather intelligent in his estimation of Soviet Russia—is the fact that we asked him, both my wife and I, "Why did you leave Soviet Russia", and he said very sincerely, "Because I did not not find what I was looking for."
Mr. Jenner. And did you ask him what he was looking for?
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. A Utopia. I knew what he was looking for—Utopia. And that does not exist any place.
Mr. Jenner. This man could not find what he was looking for anywhere in this world.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. He could not find it in the States, he could not find it any place.
Mr. Jenner. He could find it only in him.
Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Exactly. He could find it in himself, in a false image of grandeur that he built in himself. But at the time that we knew him that was not so obvious. Now you can see that, as a possible murderer of the President of the United States, he must have been unbelievably egotistical, an unbelievably egotistical person.
Mr. Jenner. Do you know what paranoia is?