Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I don't remember. I assumed that he did not. Marina was naturally interested in Christmas.

Mr. Jenner. She was?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. She was.

Mr. Jenner. Did the Oswalds, either together or separately, come to your home frequently or several times and spend the day with you?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I was trying to pin down how many times we saw them in all, and it is very hard you know. I would say between 10 and 12 times, maybe more. It is very hard to say.

Usually they were together.

Mr. Jenner. She come alone?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Sometimes she came alone; yes. I don't recall his coming all by himself. I don't recall any incident.

Mr. Jenner. There was some testimony to the effect—I want you to pause before I ask you another question, exhaust your recollection on this.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.