Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That could be, very easily. But then it would fit very well in my schedule—that would have been the second time—because, at that time, we were not seeing the Oswalds. We were busy on something else, Jeanne was working both in the store and at the foundation, I was preparing my project, and we were very busy, and didn't see anybody, practically, and especially the Oswalds.

October, November; I don't think we saw them at all in October, November, December.

Mr. Jenner. Did I ask you about Betty MacDonald this morning, as to whether she was at that February 1963 party?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Oh, yes; I think that is the librarian. The name MacDonald sounds familiar to me. Is she Pierce's fiance? That is how I remember her.

Mr. Jenner. I am just trying to get these two events. Marina recalls when they lived on Elsbeth Street she had a dispute with Lee, and—about her Russian friends, in which he said, "Well, if you like your friends so much, then go ahead and live with them."

And she said that left her no choice, so she got in a cab and went over to Anna Meller's house with the baby.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Oh, that is how she described it.

Mr. Jenner. She was there a week.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. That was the second time? What month was it?

Mr. Jenner. I don't know.