Mr. Jenner. Did you both return to the United States together?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Oh, no; he stayed there for quite a while. He stayed there much longer. He returned in November, because I remember right after he returned Clark was in New York.

Mr. Jenner. That is I. Clark?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. And in fact he went with me to meet him at the airport, and we talked and talked and talked, and they talked me into going back to Texas, which I wanted anyway. So then we returned together to Texas. We went to visit his brother first, in Dartmouth.

Mr. Jenner. At Hanover, N.H.?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; and then we drove slowly—we drove through Florida, because I had never been in Florida, never saw it—St. Augustine. We have a convertible car always, so we like to drive close to the sea, so we can stop and bait. And then through Pensacola, through New Orleans. We stopped in New Orleans, with his old, old friends, the Crumps, but they are dead now, I believe. They have tremendous gardenia gardens there. We arrived Thanksgiving Day at Dallas.

Mr. Jenner. Of what year?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. It was 1957; still 1957.

Mr. Jenner. Now, do you recall your husband making a trip to Ghana?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; he did. I believe it was in 1958, in late spring.