Mr. Jenner. I am using a reference to identify a more or less heterogeneous group of people in Dallas who had a measure of common interests arising out of the fact that either they or their parents had been born or had a relatively immediate contact with Russia.

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Well, you see, there are two types of Russian people there—some that came in after the revolution, and there are some new ones that escaped during the Second World War, from Germany.

Mr. Jenner. You are now telling me about this situation in Dallas, are you not?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. I am trying to classify who was before and who came in later.

Mr. Jenner. But you are telling me about people in Dallas?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. All right. Go ahead.

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. From what I know, the latest arrivals to the United States was, of course—Marina was, and I think there was another one, Declan Ford.

Mr. Jenner. Mrs. Declan Ford?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes. She was on What's My Life, or something, a dramatic story. She married an American boy, and he rescued her, and so on and so forth. They came over and lived in Dallas. His name was Skotnicki, and then they divorced. I think he was Polish. He was a nice fellow, but he was too anxious to make too much money, so the marriage broke up.