Mrs. Ray. No, uh-uh.

Mr. Liebeler. Did they tell you why Oswald went to Russia in the first place?

Mrs. Ray. No; but I read in the paper and then, you know, before he went, I remember in Fort Worth paper, I read it about boy went to Russia that he said that's government he preferred and that's place he want to go to live and—but that's as far as—then Mrs. Harris is one that told me she know about him, that he went to Russia and want to stay there and then he change his mind and want to come back to America.

Mr. Liebeler. You knew that about Oswald when you met him at Ford's party, is that right?

Mrs. Ray. Yes—no, no; I don't know it because we suppose to know it and Zena—that's Mrs. Harris—don't know either who they are but when we go Mrs. Harris found out who is here and then she told me. That's in conversation, you know, he went to Russia and don't like it and he come back but marry this Russian girl and brought her with.

Mr. Liebeler. So, you learned that at the Ford party because Mrs. Harris told you that, is that right?

Mrs. Ray. Yeah.

Mr. Liebeler. After the Oswalds left the party was there any discussion about Oswald amongst the people there?

Mrs. Ray. Well, not that moment when they start leaving, well, we go to Marina and I personally ask why they are leaving so early—I don't recall the time—she said well, they coming with some couples, they don't have any car, they came with somebody and said they ready to go and "We better go; we have baby at home and we better go back." Well, we tell them "Bye" and that's as far as went but after they left at this time there has been no discussion whatsoever, you know, just they gone and everything is forgot.

Mr. Liebeler. Did there come a time later after the Ford party that there was a discussion about the Oswalds?