But he never appeared to be violent or anything. He was a little violent once, when we came to the point that we said we are taking your wife and child away. That is the only time he showed real nastiness.
Mr. Jenner. Please.
You reached the point where you and your husband took Marina and the child out of the home and away from Oswald against his objections.
Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Against his objections. Actually, we talked him into doing it peacefully.
Mr. Jenner. And where did you take Marina and June?
Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. We took Marina and June to the house of Meller.
Mr. Jenner. Anna Meller?
Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Anna Meller, yes. Very poor people—they put the baby's crib right in the dining room and everything. That is how nice people were, trying to help her. That was supposed to be temporary until we find another place where she could live with somebody for 2 or 3 months. We were trying to put her with Ford, with Declan Ford's wife, because she had a big house, and she had a newborn baby. But she is not a very easygoing person. She refused. I was furious with her that she refused, because she really could take Marina very nicely.
And I believe finally she was talked into it, and she had Marina maybe for a little while with her. I don't know. I am not sure.
Mr. Jenner. In October or November?