Mr. Hutchison. To Shady Grove.

Mr. Jenner. To Shady Grove?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Approximately how many blocks?

Mr. Hutchison. It's 8 blocks from Fifth to Shady Grove.

Mr. Jenner. All right. Do you have a large parking lot area?

Mr. Hutchison. Well, I would consider it fairly large; yes.

Mr. Jenner. Mrs. Paine has testified with respect to attempting to teach Lee Oswald to drive an automobile, and that she went to a supermarket area, which she said was approximately 8 blocks from her home—it took her about 4 minutes, 4½ minutes or 5 minutes to drive there—4 minutes, I guess.

Mr. Hutchison. I don't believe she could teach on my driveway because my driveway is three-way parking, and I don't have a lot to where she could turn, feasibly, around.

Mr. Jenner. I see.