Mr. Jenner. What would you judge her age to be?

Mr. Hutchison. I would say between 20 and 24.

Mr. Jenner. And his age?

Mr. Hutchison. Well, I'd say he looked—he at that time looked to be about 21 or 22.

Mr. Jenner. He looked younger than she?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Do you recall whether the elderly lady did or did not wear spectacles—or glasses?

Mr. Hutchison. She had glasses on. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Were they a horn-rimmed type that I have and you have on?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes, sir; yes, sir.