Mr. Jenner. How tall was she with respect to the gentleman and the young lady?

Mr. Hutchison. Well, she was—she was, of course, not as tall as the gentleman and maybe about the same height as the lady.

Mr. Jenner. The young lady?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes, sir; the young lady.

Mr. Jenner. What was your judgment as to the young lady's height?

Mr. Hutchison. I would say 5 feet 2½ or 3.

Mr. Jenner. Relatively short?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes, sir; relatively short—yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. And the elderly lady was approximately that height as well?

Mr. Hutchison. Yes, sir; but dumpy.