Mr. Pizzo. We looked for the card to—we went right back again and did the same thing, and he helped look for it and we had the colored boy there helping us looking for it and then when some FBI men came there they went in there and looked for it.
Mr. Jenner. We became very interested in that.
Mr. Pizzo. Me too. So, I kind of said, "Are you kidding us or what? You either have his name or you don't." He said, "Well, Frank, don't you remember?" I said, "I don't remember." He said, "I brought him to your office and you said he needed $200 or $300 down," and I said, "Yes, I guess I remember." He said, "Well, you should remember because when I took that man for a ride he drove like a wild man, and besides we had Gene Wilson's car and Gene got mad because we used up all his gas." He said, "He drove so fast, he scared the daylights out of me. Don't you remember me coming back and saying how mad I was?"
I said, "I just don't remember that particular moment." That's how he was trying to get me to remember that particular time when he took him for a ride. I said, "I just really don't remember that night—that much of it."
Now, I'll tell you how I think I recognized the man—this was after they had him on television and they showed him on television which was Monday or Tuesday or something like that—it was a few days after.
Mr. Jenner. You mean a rerun?
Mr. Pizzo. No; of the Oswalds—when they showed him on television—the first pictures of him on television, I saw that.
Mr. Jenner. And do you recall what day that was?
Mr. Pizzo. It was past a weekend. It was not Saturday—it might have been Sunday and probably it was Monday, but it wasn't Friday or Saturday, and I'm not sure it was Sunday, but I think it was on a Monday, and of course—the seed planted—I got to thinking about it and I looked at him and he looked familiar to me, and at that time I could have sworn it was him, because I remember a man in a T-shirt. I don't mean the open T-shirt but a full T-shirt.
Mr. Jenner. Like the kind you wore in the Marines?