Mr. Liebeler. Do you know how long a yardstick is? Can you visualize that in your mind?

Mr. Wood. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Is your rifle longer or shorter than a yardstick?

Mr. Wood. It is about, I would say it was shorter than a yardstick, yes.

Mr. Liebeler. What about the rifle that this fellow had, was it longer or shorter?

Mr. Wood. Longer than a yard stick, because it is—a Winchester is a small gun to start off with, and a military rifle is a pretty long rifle.

Mr. Liebeler. This one, even though the barrel was sawed-off, you think it was still longer than a yardstick?

Mr. Wood. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Could you guess about how much longer than a yardstick it would be?

Mr. Wood. No, sir; it wasn't too much bigger than a yardstick.