Mr. Martello. He did not impress me at the time I interviewed him as a violent person by any of the responses to questions, by observing his physical makeup. Not in any way, shape, or form did he appear to me as being violent in any way. He displayed very little emotion and was completely unconcerned and aloof. Off the record?

Mr. Liebeler. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Liebeler. When you subsequently heard that Oswald had been arrested in connection with the assassination, were you surprised?

Mr. Martello. Yes, sir; I was, I was very much surprised.

Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us——

Mr. Martello. Because he did not give me the impression of being a violent individual. He was a very passive type of an individual.

Mr. Liebeler. You have had experience with other pickets here in New Orleans on several questions, and have you run into people who demonstrated a passivity in the face of provocation before?

Mr. Martello. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Did Oswald appear to be this kind of person?