Mrs. Geraci. He did call me.

Mr. Geraci. He called you? Carlos?

Mrs. Geraci. I spoke with him on the phone.

Mr. Geraci. That is because I told him—when I collected, a man told me to do something like that, that I needed a license, so I went and told Carlos, "You have to get a license." He said, "Don't collect any more until I get one." Then he went to city hall and got some stuff he had to fill out.

Mr. Liebeler. This wasn't Oswald who told you you couldn't collect?

Mr. Geraci. No.

Mr. Liebeler. Oswald didn't have anything to do with this?

Mr. Geraci. No; this was before I knew Oswald. This is a man works some place—who works in a cleaner's, I remember. I went there and he said I had to get a license to do that, so I called Carlos on the phone and told him.

Mrs. Geraci. Then when Carlos called the house, I realized he was still involved in this.

Mr. Geraci. I told you I was.