Mr. Jenner. But you are not so sure about that? You have the impression that he was a person who had the benefit of higher education?

Mr. Glover. Yes; I assumed that he had had at least some school knowledge of the subject of petroleum engineering or petroleum in general.

Mr. Jenner. He did say that he attended the university in this State?

Mr. Glover. Yes; he said he attended the University of Texas, I am quite sure. At least I got that impression. I am not sure of his exact words. He talked about being a student, so I guess I just assumed that. I don't know whether he said specifically he attended as a full-time student.

Mr. Jenner. Describe George De Mohrenschildt.

Mr. Glover. He is a heavy set rather Mr. Atlas type.

Mr. Jenner. Atlas or Adonis?

Mr. Glover. I notice that he is still around, Mr. Atlas. Very healthy looking specimen. Tall and heavy set. Little bit clumsy in his movements.

Mr. Jenner. A big man, in other words?

Mr. Glover. Big man, yes.