Mr. Jenner. You learned of those three areas—his touching those areas from books, records and documents of the Commission?
Mr. Statman. Well, that's true. When this FBI man came in, and I can't think of his name—I've got his card, but I probably cleaned my nails with it, but anyway, he came in and asked for a copy of, or the actual documents, and we told him that we had a certain amount of documents here and there were others in Austin, due to that interstate claim situation, and so we gave him all of our records, and also he contacted an FBI agent in Austin, and our Austin State office gave him some records.
Now, in preparing these records, then, I saw the documents that we had on him. Now, what I have with me here is a copy of his application card.
Mr. Jenner. Could I describe that on the record first?
Mr. Statman. Yes; I think it is an E-13, let me make sure what this number is, and—it is his application card.
Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, sir, Mr. Statman has handed me a form entitled—what?
Mr. Statman. It's an E-13—it's an E-13 application.
Mr. Jenner. Now, you have handed me two sheets.
Mr. Statman. Now, this represents the front.
Mr. Jenner. The top sheet I have is the front of the card and the second sheet is the inside or reverse side?