Mr. Jenner. Would you say they attempted to live frugally?

Mr. Glover. Yes; I would say they attempted to live frugally.

Mr. Jenner. Speaking there about attire, in this connection, as evidence of their financial status or condition, do you recall mentioning to the FBI their tennis clothing and from time to time other clothing was quite informal, even to the extent of not being appropriate?

Mr. Glover. Well, Mrs. De Mohrenschildt used to wear a bathing suit all the time when she was playing tennis, one piece bathing suit, in which the lower half was sort of Bikini like. And George just wore a pair of shorts. That is accepted attire for a man tennis player. We used to go to the Dallas Athletic Country Club east of the city to play, sometimes, because Sam Ballen had a membership, and she was told it is against the rules to appear on the courts with a bathing suit.

Mr. Jenner. Tell me about Sam Ballen. Who is he?

Mr. Glover. Sam Ballen, I met him in the way I told you, and he told me that he had been in the stock market business in New York, and came here to organize a company which deals in cataloging, and has a library for oil well logs. These are the records of the physical measurements made in the oil well, and apparently was very successful in doing this. I have known him for the past 2 years—I met him actually when I told you; at Lauriston Marshall's house sometime in 1962, I guess.

Mr. Jenner. Is Ballen a friend of Mr. De Mohrenschildt?

Mr. Glover. Ballen is a friend of the De Mohrenschildts.

Mr. Jenner. Was it your impression that they were closely acquainted?

Mr. Glover. Fairly well, yes; closely acquainted.