Mr. Jenner. The turbine department?

Mr. Bargas. The turbine department, and that's another ventilator which we make, and this ventilator requires a little cutting to do with the shears, and he told me that he had had sheet metal experience while he was in the service.

Mr. Jenner. All right, go ahead.

Mr. Bargas. And so——

Mr. Jenner. What kind of cutting—you say with the shears—is it a power-operated shears?

Mr. Bargas. A power-operated shears.

Mr. Jenner. Go ahead.

Mr. Bargas. And then after that, I put him to work.

Mr. Jenner. Now, I would like to stick to that beginning a little bit—do you recall what inquiries you made of him as to his immediate history, that is, did you inquire of him as to past positions, if any, he had held?

Mr. Bargas. No.