Mr. Jenner. And that his name is spelled B-a-l-l-e-n, and his first name is Samuel?
Mr. Glover. I just call him Sam. I don't know whether his name is Samuel or not.
Mr. Jenner. Do you know anything about the De Mohrenschildts' views toward religion?
Mr. Glover. They are very much against religion, I am quite sure. They don't think very much of organized religion at all.
Mr. Jenner. Do you have any information more definite than that? Are they atheistic, are they just—don't have any feeling one way or the other?
Mr. Glover. Be hard for me to say. I would think probably that atheistic would be more the correct term, but I don't recall specific remarks that they made.
Mr. Jenner. Did you have any impression, and do you now, as to any political affiliation of the De Mohrenschildts together or separate?
Mr. Glover. Any kind of affiliation?
Mr. Jenner. Political or otherwise.
Mr. Glover. Political or otherwise. Well, business, he belongs to the Petroleum Club. He talks about being down there. And I don't know of any other organizations.