Mr. Jenner. Would you state when it was that you first became acquainted with either or both of them.

Mr. Glover. I am not able to give a specific time. I met Marina first at the home of George De Mohrenschildt.

Mr. Jenner. All right, give me the circumstances and when that occurred and what led up to it, and what you knew in advance before the meeting was held, about that? That is, whether this came all of a sudden without any advance notice, or whether there had been some discussion with the De Mohrenschildts prior to that time. Just tell me the whole circumstances leading up to the moment you met Marina.

Mr. Glover. I am not able to state a specific time, but of course it was somewhere, I am not really able to say whether it was sometime in December, or in January, or sometime in that time, or in the first part.

Mr. Jenner. What year?

Mr. Glover. This would be the year 1962–63.

Mr. Jenner. Now would you fix it with respect to when your wife and you separated. Was that in December of 1962, did you say?

Mr. Glover. No, we separated before September 1, 1962. I am not able to say when she (Marina) came to the De Mohrenschildts. Marina came to the De Mohrenschildts several times. The first time I met her and subsequent times, she was also there.

Mr. Jenner. Had there been—has there been any conversation about the Oswalds with you or in your presence prior to the time that you met Marina?

Mr. Glover. Well, I am not sure about this, but I would think, yes; they had mentioned her.