Mr. Graef. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. And, particularly what you did on this occasion?

Mr. Graef. Being the director of the photographic department for some time, on numerous occasions it has been necessary for me to call and ask the Texas Employment and other sources for help in the normal turnover of employees that come up in any business.

Mr. Jenner. Could you tell me something about those normal sources, because we may wish to look to them and see if we can find anybody else who had any possible contact with this man?

Mr. Graef. Surely. I can't name other employment agencies, but I will say, private employment agencies who occasionally have called us and told us that they had someone they thought had ability along our line, but this hadn't been as successful to us as the Texas Employment Commission. They seem to have a bigger repertoire of personnel needing jobs.

Mr. Jenner. Is that a public agency?

Mr. Graef. Yes; it is.

Mr. Jenner. State or local?

Mr. Graef. State; it is a State agency.

Mr. Jenner. It is here in Dallas?