Mr. Graef. That's correct—he came in and I met him in the outer office, and we sat down in the outer office.

Mr. Jenner. I take it you had never seen this man before?

Mr. Graef. No; that's correct.

Mr. Jenner. Had you ever heard of him before?

Mr. Graef. No.

Mr. Jenner. Did anything occur during the course of that interview which triggered any thought in your mind that you might have, or could have heard about him before?

Mr. Graef. No.

Mr. Jenner. As an individual?

Mr. Graef. No.

Mr. Jenner. He remained throughout a complete stranger except to the extent of your questioning, which elicited some knowledge of him?