About this time, I think it was in April, we had a fluctuation in business—it dropped and I thought, "Well, this is the time to let Lee Harvey Oswald—to let him go," so I called him back into the darkroom one day and I said, "Lee, business is"——
Mr. Jenner. When you say this conversation took place in the darkroom, was the room dark?
Mr. Graef. There were dim red lights.
Mr. Jenner. Why did you call him back in the darkroom rather than some other place?
Mr. Graef. At the time it was the—I didn't want to embarrass the boy.
Mr. Jenner. This was a private talk?
Mr. Graef. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. Out of the presence of anyone other than yourself and Oswald?
Mr. Graef. Out of the presence of anyone else—yes.
Mr. Jenner. And that was one of the reasons for your calling him back there?