Mr. Jenner. Do you think he was aware of it?
Mr. Graef. I think he was aware of it; yes.
Mr. Jenner. No outbursts of any kind?
Mr. Graef. No.
Mr. Jenner. Anything said about what might happen if he sought references in any future employment?
Mr. Graef. Yes; I told him—I volunteered the information. I said, "Lee, if there is another job that you find, I'll be glad to give you a recommendation, a good recommendation," because—I told him, "I think you have tried," and I think he had. It would have been, of course, with reservations—any new employer that had called me for a recommendation, I would have had to say something about his relations with other employees.
Mr. Jenner. And that would have been somewhat negative?
Mr. Graef. That's correct; but he did try to become a worker. It wasn't that he wasn't industrious—he was not lazy. He, to the best of his ability, tried but the ability was not there.
Mr. Jenner. Now, I take it then from your recital that his discharge was for the reasons you have given and not because of any past history that you discovered with respect to him?
Mr. Graef. No.