Mr. Jenner. Did any of the reports to you, which you have detailed to me, include anything with regard to any political theories or arguments or positions that he took as with respect to other employees?
Mr. Graef. No; none. None that came to my attention. There was never any political conversations that I heard about him or between him, or that I heard him talking with the people or anything like that.
Mr. Jenner. I think I have no more questions. I would like to put, however, the general question that I do put in all these depositions. Is there anything that might occur to you that I have not stimulated to ask you but that you think—any incident that occurred or any circumstance that you think might possibly be of help to the Commission in their investigation of this man and of the overall incident we are investigating?
Mr. Graef. No; I really don't think so. Of course, the whole thing is just a tragic, unbelievable thing.
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Graef. That you rub shoulders with someone who did such a thing is just fantastic.
Mr. Jenner. If he did it?
Mr. Graef. It's just unbelievable—it's still hard to believe that you were in such close contact with anyone that took part in the events.
Mr. Jenner. Now, is there anything in my off-the-record discussion we have had, and there have been substantially none, that took place during that interlude that I have failed to bring out?
Mr. Graef. I might add this—I'll let you repeat that question in a moment.