Mr. Ofstein. No, sir.

Mr. Jenner. You are still employed by them?

Mr. Ofstein. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. You were initially a trainee as well as Oswald?

Mr. Ofstein. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. And how did you become employed there?

Mr. Ofstein. I was laid off by Sinclair Refining Co. and I registered with the Texas Employment Commission.

Mr. Jenner. Did anybody in particular handle that over there at the Commission?

Mr. Ofstein. I don't recall who the person was at the time.

Mr. Jenner. A lady or a gentleman?