Mr. Ofstein. None whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner. Did your acquaintance reach the point at which he talked with you some of his past history?

Mr. Ofstein. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Let's start back to the time he became employed in October 1962, and you start in your own words and tell us your acquaintance with him, how that acquaintance ripened, if it did ripen, the nature of your work with him at the Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall plant.

Mr. Ofstein. Well, after he became employed, we worked more or less side by side while he was training and everything, and the contact I had with him—it was necessary to teach him how to operate the cameras and how to opaque negatives and make clean prints and just the general work around there.

Mr. Jenner. Now, sticking right at that point—what was his skill and acquaintance in that connection when he first started?

Mr. Ofstein. Well, he seemed to take a great interest in it as far as skill went—it was, I would say, at the beginning approximately the same as anyone else's would have been.

Mr. Jenner. Little or none?

Mr. Ofstein. Little or none; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. All right, proceed.