Mr. Ofstein. Yes; private or public school.

Mr. Jenner. But not while he was in the service?

Mr. Ofstein. No, sir; he never led me to believe that.

Mr. Jenner. The information he gave you with respect to the disposition of military units in Russia—that information was of the character you have already related—that the tanks were in one area?

Mr. Ofstein. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. And the other types of equipment in another, and did he tell you where these various units were?

Mr. Ofstein. The best I recall, he mentioned that, as I say, that he never saw a vapor trail of a plane around Minsk, and he mentioned the location of the tanks, but I am not sure whether he mentioned whether it was north or south.

Mr. Jenner. Of what?

Mr. Ofstein. In the Soviet Union.

Mr. Jenner. In relating this to you, was it in terms of his having seen these units?