Mr. Glover. There were quite a number of people for the small apartment. There may have been five or six, seven or eight more people.

Mr. Jenner. There may have been five or six or seven or eight more people in addition to these you have named?

Mr. Glover. Yes. Now I have an impression, and I may be completely wrong, that a man by the name of Richmond was there.

Mr. Jenner. Richmond?

Mr. Glover. I am not sure how you'd spell his name. I know they called him High Richmond, and he works at the, they call it SCAS, which is Southwest Center for Advanced Studies. He has taught physics at SMU. He may have been there. I do not know for sure. Sam Ballen might have been there, I don't know. I am not clear at all who might have been there.

Mr. Jenner. All right, this was a dinner party or an evening party?

Mr. Glover. Sort of a dinner.

Mr. Jenner. What did the Oswalds look like and what was your impression of Lee Oswald? Tell me how the Oswalds were generally attired? Did anything impress you?

Mr. Glover. Not well attired for clothing and shoes, those sort of things. I got the impression that they certainly were not perfectly well attired. As I remember, Oswald just wore an open shirt and a pair of pants. He wasn't dressed up at all. Some of the other people were dressed up.

Mr. Jenner. Even though this was in February 1963?