Mr. Liebeler. Did he seem surprised?

Mr. Alba. Not that my memory would—if my memory would serve me correctly; no.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he seem to have a fairly good knowledge of a rifle?

Mr. Alba. He did of the military pieces, the M-1 and the Garand. He was asking questions about the Japanese rifle and the Springfield, the 1903-A, the A-3 Springfield, inquiring questions about those pieces, but he seemed to have a very thorough knowledge of the M-1 and the Garand.

Mr. Liebeler. You just mentioned two different rifles, or three different rifles that he showed a real familiarity with?

Mr. Alba. Two.

Mr. Liebeler. This was the straight M-1 gas-operated rifle that has been used by the military services?

Mr. Alba. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. And the other was the Springfield?

Mr. Alba. No, no; the other was the Garand M-1. The Garand M-1 and you have the M-1 carbine. Both are gas-operated.