Mrs. Tobias. Battle Creek—my husband is from Michigan and I went there as a bride and I raised my family in Michigan, and we have been back here 12 years. We have been in Dallas—back in Dallas about 12 years—well, we have been back about 14 years, but in Dallas, Tex., you mean, for 12 years.
Mr. Jenner. Your husband is retired now?
Mrs. Tobias. Yes; my husband was in construction and during the war he worked for the government. We were just all over, but, of course, he broke his back—it will be 14 years ago in August, and he worked up until 5 years ago, so he had to give up 5 years ago, and he is on social security, of course, and that's why we manage these apartments.
Mr. Jenner. And you have been primarily a mother raising a brood of five boys and a housewife and also help your husband manage some apartments?
Mrs. Tobias. That's right.
Mr. Jenner. And in connection with the management of the apartments, is that how you had your contact with Mr. Oswald?
Mrs. Tobias. With Mr. Oswald—that's right—he had one of the apartments.
Mr. Jenner. Located where?
Mrs. Tobias. Now, he was in 604—602 and 604—just like—this is 604 over here and 602 is down here and there is one down and one up. Mr. Oswald lived in 604 and we live over here in 602 and it faces Elsbeth. Do you want a description of it?
Mr. Jenner. Let me get a piece of paper and let's draw a picture of it so I can orient myself.