Mrs. Tobias. A patio—in between—this side and this side (indicating).

Mr. Jenner. In between the south side and the north side?

Mrs. Tobias. That's right. We call it a patio, you know, there is a front entrance with each having their own and then, of course, we have cement there in that entrance and there's lots of shrubbery.

Mr. Jenner. Is this open to the sky?

Mrs. Tobias. No; oh, sure, it's open. These buildings are all solid, what I mean, there is nothing like—what do you call these—a breezeway—there's nothing like that. It's just open in between 604 and 602, if I am making it clear?

Mr. Jenner. Yes, you are. Between your apartment on the north side of the building and their apartment on the south side—it is open?

Mrs. Tobias. That is right.

Mr. Jenner. There is no roof over that area?

Mrs. Tobias. No; there isn't.

Mr. Jenner. And you call that a patio?