Mrs. Tobias. No; I never did.
Mr. Jenner. A firearm?
Mrs. Tobias. No; I haven't.
Mr. Jenner. Whether in the patio or elsewhere?
Mrs. Tobias. No; I never seen him appear out there—I never seen him with any gun.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever hear that he had one while he was there?
Mrs. Tobias. No; I didn't. I didn't hear that. I suppose we would have been real frightened, but we didn't—he did have an awful lot of trouble with his wife.
Mr. Jenner. Now, it is true, then I gather, from that chance remark that you made that if you saw him with a weapon that would have alarmed you?
Mrs. Tobias. I think it would have because he was kind of an odd kind of a person.
Mr. Jenner. Now, were you in the office when that apartment was rented, did you have the first contact with him?