Mrs. Tobias. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Was anybody accompanying him?

Mrs. Tobias. No; just Oswald, my husband and I.

Mr. Jenner. How was he dressed?

Mrs. Tobias. Well, he always seemed to wear slacks and just a T-shirt.

Mr. Jenner. Is it your recollection that on this occasion he was so dressed?

Mrs. Tobias. Just a jacket and slacks and I just can't remember if he had on a T-shirt or if he had on a sports shirt or a dress shirt that night, but he wanted to see the apartment. My husband took him over, because we don't like to rent the apartments in the evening—we don't have to, but just a lot of times my husband will go ahead and show them, because they said we don't have to after 8:30 or 9 o'clock. My husband took him over and showed him the apartment and then he asked my husband if he could look around and my husband said, "sure."

Mr. Jenner. Mr. Oswald wanted to look around the apartment or look around the building?

Mrs. Tobias. He wanted to look around the building. He wanted to go around the building. So, he looked at the back entrance, the way he could get out the back entrance—now, that back entrance will go out, like I told you, this driveway—it will take you out onto Davis.

Mr. Jenner. The back entrance?