Mr. Jenner. Did he drive one?

Mrs. Tobias. No; I never seen him with one.

Mr. Jenner. You never saw him drive one in your life?

Mrs. Tobias. No; I never saw him drive an automobile in my life. He was always walking when I've seen him and they would go for a walk and maybe for groceries, and she would always be carrying that baby. He never carried that baby. She would always carry that child. That baby was real frightened. Now, my husband is just real fond of children and they take up with my husband real easy, but this child was always too frightened and it always seemed to be so frightened and never seemed to want anyone near it. It always seemed to be such a frightened child.

Mr. Jenner. Did Mrs. Oswald occupy this apartment with her husband during all the period, November 3, 1962, to and including March 3, 1963?

Mrs. Tobias. Well—do you want me to tell you something that happened?

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mrs. Tobias. We had gone out for a ride on a Sunday afternoon and when we came back, there was a car in the driveway.

Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, this is Mr. Davis from the State of Texas attorney general's office.

Mr. Davis. How are you—nice to see you.