Mrs. Tobias. Yes; she did—she talked to me in English.

Mr. Jenner. About when was that, with respect to the other incident you have described?

Mrs. Tobias. You mean between the two of them?

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mrs. Tobias. Well, I don't know whether it was a week later or 2 weeks later, I just don't know. Just like I said, that if we had had any idea about all this, we might have put down dates.

Mr. Jenner. Oh, sure.

Mrs. Tobias. But I don't—I really don't know. When they don't find the party, they usually come to the manager, you see, and we try to help them if we can.

Mr. Jenner. Now, going back to these conversations you had with Mrs. Oswald about her being Russian, was there an occasion when she talked to you about the fact that her husband didn't want people to know that she spoke Russian?

Mrs. Tobias. She didn't say "speak". She said, "He doesn't want me to tell that I am Russian."

Mr. Jenner. Why?