Mrs. Tobias. No; I guess my house was the only one in the building she was ever in.

Mr. Jenner. And as far as he was concerned, he had little contact with you, did he, other than pay the rent?

Mrs. Tobias. No; my husband went over and got after them about the noise. I didn't go with him. You could speak to him and he would look at you so funny—he just didn't have anything to say. I heard a lady describe him in an interview on TV and that was him exactly. I told my husband, she couldn't do a better job—because he was tight, you know.

Mr. Jenner. He was tightlipped most of the time?

Mrs. Tobias. Just as if his chin—just like that lady—I said to my husband, "isn't that something how she described him?"

Mr. Jenner. Did you ever see either of the Oswalds after they left your building?

Mrs. Tobias. Oh, yes; they used to come back by, you see. I think I told you that my husband had had this accident. We have chairs—lawn chairs and we were sitting in the yard and she would come back by with the baby in her stroller and she would come up to the walk and smile.

Mr. Jenner. Did she talk to you?

Mrs. Tobias. Well, she never tried to have a conversation. I walked out to the car and I said, "You moved away and left us."

Mr. Jenner. You walked out to the car?