Mr. Jenner. But you did see Marina in and around your apartment and you saw her out in the walk, walking the baby and she was friendly, was she?

Mr. Tobias. She was always friendly.

Mr. Jenner. A very nice girl?

Mr. Tobias. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Clean and neat?

Mr. Tobias. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. And attended to her child?

Mr. Tobias. Well, she took care of her baby, that's for sure, and it was always clean.

Mr. Jenner. And she attempted to be pleasant and talk to you people to the limited extent she was able to do, is that a fair statement?

Mr. Tobias. I didn't hear you.